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Thursday, June 09, 2005

Dirty Hands and the Collapse of Societies (Well, Part of It)

[Okay, this is a bit long and erudite, but I believe you'll find plenty of interest here. More posts in the future, no doubt, about the Partridge Family, gross TV commercials, and other topics that fit more properly within the confines of the typical blog.]

Right now I'm re-reading a fascinating book by Paul Johnson, Enemies of Society, which unfortunately is out of print. I've never much liked the title, which is a little sensationalistic and also deceptive, because the book is really not about a conspiracy against civilization (as its title suggests), but rather about the reasons why societies fail. This is also the subject of the much more recent Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed by Jared Diamond, who ranks among our greatest living thinkers on issues of knowledge, technology, society and progress or regress.

In discussing how societies fail, inevitably scholars look to Rome, whose downfall has been the subject of thousands of works. Among these was Augustine's City of God, written in the aftermath of the Visigoths' sack of Rome in 410. (This event, a three-day rampage that left the city devastated, is what many historians cite as the true "fall of Rome"; by contrast, the actual collapse of the western empire sixty-six years later was a relative non-event.) At the time, many Romans blamed the tragic events of August 410 on the fact that they had foresaken the pagan gods of their forebears, whereas Augustine maintained that the opposite was true: they were being punished because they had been slow to fully embrace the Christian god.

More than a thousand years after Augustine, Edward Gibbon took exactly the opposite approach in his epochal Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, blaming Christianity for Rome's collapse. Despite Gibbons' achievements as a historian, his thesis regarding Christianity does not hold up to scrutiny; if anything, Christianity helped reinvigorate what had long since become a dying society.

Since Gibbon, scholars have put forward a number of explanations for Rome's collapse, almost all of them plausible as contributing factors. For example, the Romans' choice of material... [for why this post runs out, please see above.]

4 Comments:

At 8:56 AM, June 11, 2005, Blogger Judson Knight said...

Hey, is this Chuck? Welcome, brother! Actually, in the rest of this long, long (too-long) post, which got snapped off into the ether, I went on to make the point (not mine originally, mind you) that the principal reason why classical civilization died was that the leading thinkers were all aristocrats who disdained getting their hands dirty with experimentation. (And because their pagan worldview, in constrast to the dynamism of Christianity, discouraged attempts to tamper with the natural world.) I'm going to try to reconstruct the rest of this and post it, not because my own thoughts are so profound, but because this was all a lead-up to providing a link to a really interesting essay on the subject.

 
At 10:30 AM, June 13, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 10:36 AM, June 13, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This all reminds me of a famous quote from Lord Acton: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

 
At 7:07 AM, August 01, 2005, Blogger Judson Knight said...

Hey, Chuck. The page for that post (which, admittedly, isn’t all that informative), is

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13035918&postID=111837199073627841

Many thanks for your interest. Be sure to visit the main page and read the most recent post, about one of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen.

 

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